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ADAM, EVE & YOU
BONNIE NELSON
Hello Firestorm:
I read a post on a Facebook feed this week, showing a picture of a gay-affirming church at a Nashville Pride parade, where people were holding up a banner with written letters for everyone to see with the words, “God is PROUD of you”.
Although there are many in the Pulpit who endorse this lifestyle as being something God is proud of, it is hard not to hear biblical warnings of “spiritual repercussions or consequences,” which come forth, if and when we attempt to alter what is written in Scripture. And how many of you know it is hard to give a warning and have people take you serious, when they are in the midst of ministers and laymen alike, who are encouraging, celebrating, rewarding and telling people what they are doing is fine in the eyes of God? But, is that true?
Those who know the Lord and His Word are familiar with the term “reverential fear of God” and understand, a lot of what is happening today is dangerous, not only in the natural, but in the spiritual realm as well. The question becomes, can we make God proud if we are not walking inline with His Word and can we make Him proud, if we do not move in love and restraint, regarding emotional hot button issues the enemy is using in so many different ways today?
In the article, the reason shared why we have so many problems in the world today is because people doubt God’s Word. Here is the quote and the Scripture referenced.
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“So, it really comes down to believing the authority of God’s Word, the holy Scriptures, doesn’t it?
This basic and fundamental error of doubting the Word of God is the very reason for the controversy surrounding gay marriage and for Man’s fall in the beginning. It is the very reason for the curse and calamities that have befallen this world. It set the law of sin and death into motion.
They, specifically Eve, doubted God’s Word. And the serpent said to the woman, “Has God said, ‘You shall not eat of any tree of the garden’?” (Gen. 3:1).”
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I humbly submit the following for your prayerful consideration, and I am willing to receive and consider more revelation as the Holy Spirit leads.
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 2 Timothy 3:16
First, I don’t see Eve “doubted God’s Word,” or doubting God’s word being the main reason for all our troubles. I believe this is just one of the symptoms, but not the root of the issues we see today.
With that said…..
God never told Eve not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
God “ONLY” told Adam not to eat of the tree of good and evil or he would die. This was a private conversation between God and Adam, because Eve had not yet been created. (Gen 2:15-17)
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15 The Lord God took the man and placed him in the orchard in Eden to care for it and to maintain it. 16 Then the Lord God commanded the man, “You may freely eat fruit from every tree of the orchard, 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will surely die.”
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All the “you’s” mentioned above are singular and spoken specifically to Adam.
In the Hebrew, the word “tahell” is singular and “tahelloo” or “tahelv” is plural, making it obvious from the Written Word, God is speaking to “one” person, Adam.
Example: And how many of you know, God can call you into a fast in the midst of times, when everyone else is allowed to eat, drink and be merry?
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God never told Eve she could not eat from the tree. As a matter of fact, God told Eve, she could eat of all the trees. So, in eating the fruit of the tree, she didn’t doubt God’s Word, she believed Him, if anything, she doubted Adam’s words.
Watch this.
In Genesis 1:28-29 The Scriptures reveal God speaking to “BOTH” Adam and Eve and this is before Eve’s conversation with the serpent.
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28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply! Fill the earth and subdue it! Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that moves on the ground.”
29 Then God said, “I now give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the entire earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
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All the yous above are plural and specific to Adam and Eve. Note: God told them both, they could eat of “every tree.”
So, what’s up with this? Eve was with Adam, they were together, and God spoke directly to them both, telling them they could eat from ALL the fruit trees.
The only command given, in the beginning, not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, was from God directly to Adam and Adam alone, NOT to Eve. This was a deal between God and Adam.
Three times in the Hebrew text, God’s command was given to Adam only, plus it is recorded here, God directly told Eve, she could eat of all the trees and Adam heard this, because he was there. Gen 1:29-30 NKJV
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Why did God only tell Adam not to eat of the tree?
God made Adam first. He became the spiritual head or authority over everything.
He had the original spirit giving life for all of mankind. When God made Adam, he breathed the spirit of life into both sides of his nose.
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7
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When Eve was created, it is not said God breathed the spirit into her in the way He did with Adam.
God made Eve from a rib taken from Adam. (The rib itself contains blood in the marrow, and the life of the body is in the blood.)
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.” Gen 2:21-22
“For the life of the flesh [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul.” Lev 17:11
When God made Eve, He not only multiplied her body from Adam’s body, God also multiplied her spirit from Adam’s spirit, like a seed that grows. And then she became an individual living soul as well. She had a body and spirit (the breath of life), which is located in the blood. And this was all through the process of what the bible calls “multiplication”.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, Genesis 1:28
The spirit Eve received was birthed in her from what God took out of Adam.
Adam’s choices had power to affect the spirit of the woman, all their children and all of us today, because all of us were passed down the breath of life from him.
For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Romans 5:19
Adam received incredible power from the spirit of life God breathed into him. In looking back we understand and see the responsibility for him not to eat from the tree was greater than anyone could have imagined. He held the spiritual keys to life and death for his generations and everything hinged on one thing, obeying the command of God.
Think on that for a moment.
The serpent enters Genesis 3:1-5 (NKJV)
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”
This you is plural here, so the serpent is asking: Has God indeed said you and Adam shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Watch this:
3) And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, “You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.”
All the Hebrew “you’s” above, are plural, meaning this is to relating to “both” Adam and Eve.
Notice Eve says, she and Adam can’t eat or touch this tree in the midst of the garden.
Question? Where did the “can’t eat or touch it” thing come from? God didn’t say that to her. God told them, at the same time, when they were together, they could eat of all the trees. This has to have come from Adam to Eve. He was the only other person who could have mentioned they could not eat of the tree.
I wonder what was said in the discussion between Adam and Eve about this tree? Wouldn’t you and I like to have a recording of that conversation?
Was there a miscommunication between them? That would make sense, because it is still happening today, especially between husbands and wives. They argue and fight and claim one or the other said this or didn’t say that? Confusion, twisted communications? (Leviathan the Serpent today?)
But then again, maybe the discussion was not a miscommunication.
Did Adam tell Eve “he” was the only one God told who could not eat from the tree? That would have been the “truth.”
Or did he alter what God said, by taking away or adding to God’s Words and tell Eve neither of them could eat from the tree? Could he be the one who also told her they could not touch the tree?
If so, that would have been a lie and lies have away of going from a little white one, to a great big one.
If the serpent overheard conversations in the Garden, he would know what God said and that would give him insight on how to help him deceive Eve and have a type of control over Adam.
Here’s what happened next.
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.
7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. Genesis 3:6-7
Note: The woman’s eyes are not recorded to have opened until after “the man ate the fruit.” There is no time delay mentioned between her and his eyes opening.
Adam ate and then, both of their eyes were opened. The download process was from his spirit, then to hers and then it would go to the children. The Bible does not say when Eve ate, her eyes were opened.
All sins and death come down through the spiritual lineage of the fathers (Adam) and multiplication or the reproduction of our bodies, comes through the woman.
This is why all of Adam’s children would have their eyes opened, sin and die, because their spirits came from Adam’s spirit, not Eve’s. Here is your scripture.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God, visiting the “iniquity of the fathers” upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me, Ex 20:5 ASV
The sinful nature passed through the spirit of Adam (the father) to Eve (the mother), and then it was multiplied again to all his children.This transference is not only the spirit of life, but attributes of the spirit too, such as sinfulness or mortality. Again passing from Adam to the mother and then, to their children.
Notice: Once they lost their spiritual covering or connection with God, they tried to “cover themselves” to do what they thought was good through their own knowledge, their way, without God. We are seeing the same thing in our world today.
Think on that for a moment.
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Next? God went looking for them.
9 Then the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?” (singular, only Adam)
10 So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
11 And He (God) said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”
(God to Adam – Who are YOU listening to?)
12 Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
14 So the Lord God said to the serpent: “Because you have done this, (This is plural, God is speaking to Eve and the serpent)
This could better read: Because you two have done this
What had they done?
Together they had tempted the man to eat from the tree. The serpent knew what he was doing, but Eve is presented as being innocent in understanding what happened, until after the fact. Either way, innocent or not, she became an accomplice to the tempting of the man and would suffer her own set of consequences which would be passed down to all of mankind through her children until,
The Lord Jesus would return with His Plan of Salvation and Restoration
Clearly, through one person’s disobedience humanity became sinful, and through one person’s obedience humanity will receive God’s approval.
Romans 5:19
OK, I get that Eve was deceived and she admitted she was deceived, but I have some questions about “the rest of the story” the “set up process.” In a deception there are moves/steps that happen to get everyone into the right place, at the right time and in order to understand the root, I am going to dig a little deeper.
What if Satan, “the father of lies, created a “sting” using Adam, Eve and the serpent to go after God’s head man, with plans to rob him of his credibility, steal his authority, destroy his spirit and all of us?
A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came so that my sheep will have life and so that they will have everything they need.
John 10:10 GWT
Sometimes, I need to put traditional thinking and teaching aside for a bit and look into the whole scenario of what happened for myself and allow the Holy Spirit reveal things to me in my spirit.
In the beginning God told Adam, not to eat from the tree. Then, God tells Adam and Eve, they can eat from all the trees. Would not Eve wonder why Adam’s story did not match what God said to them? Who would you believe?
When the serpent came, he lined up more with what God said than Adam. He used some truth, a little smoke and mirrors, some double meanings and to top it off he added word of glory for them to be like gods. This is deception at its best: 90% truth and 10% death.
But, don’t you wonder, what was Adam doing? Why was he silent? If Adam failed to tell Eve correctly what God said in the first place, that HE was the one who could not eat of the tree, would all of this been avoided? Maybe Eve would not have been blindsided, if she had been given the truth of what God said to Adam. And why didn’t Adam speak up and tell the snake to get lost or seek God about this? Something is amiss and hidden.
As soon as Eve ate the fruit and lived, can’t you see her looking at Adam thinking, see God was right, we can eat and touch all the fruit of the trees, including this one. You didn’t tell me the truth.
But, Adam is still silent and then, I don’t get it, he eats the fruit. What is up with that? What could possibly keep him silent and push him to eat the fruit when he was told, one on one with God, if he ate the fruit he would die. Did he really think God lied to him? That could be a form of doubt, but it also challenges the integrity of God and His Word. Selah.
I can only think of a few things, which might cause Adam to do things like this and they may well be what we are seeing happen today.
When people get ensnared by lies and deception, they soon find themselves in a position where guilt, depression and regret for deeds done, can lead them to give up all hope and want to end it all. I am reminded of Judas when he betrayed Jesus. Could Adam have found himself in a similar mess? Could that be why he ate the fruit? (Selah) He was on self destruct?
Could the Root to The Whole Truth of the fall of Adam and Eve be a lie? The spiritual leader, Pastor of God’s new family, lied and when he did, the principles of sin and death, though they did not yet enter into Adam, was released to oppress and operate over him and Eve?
Adam had a soul just like us, with a mind, will and emotions. So, was pride at work here where Adam might have told Eve she could not eat of the tree to rule over her or to save face, because one of the “consequences” of the fall was for the husband to “rule” over the wife. Was that what Adam did? Ruling over Eve (his wife) was not a command from God, it came as a consequence of the sin (curse) being released. (God said, Husbands love your wives)
We also have an interesting Scripture on pride.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18
Was Adam hiding a lie and silent, because of the fear of the lie being exposed? Was it pride which kept him quiet, instead of warning Eve, not to eat the fruit? (Faith mobilizes, Fear paralyzes.) Because Adam was silent and did not warn Eve, did he become an accomplice in giving aid to the serpent to deceive Eve, thus becoming a trigger for the beginning of his own downfall?
I understand that Adam and Eve were as children in the garden, everyone makes mistakes, Eve was deceived, Adam disobeyed, and I have compassion for them, yada, yada. But, we are in a now time, where we need to get real and smart to understand the depth of how shrewd Satan is. He works extremely hard to bring strife, deception, endless debates, division and death to the Church, which means he wants to kill you and I, for we are The Church.
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. James 3:1
Could the real issue regarding Adam’s fall, be a wakeup call to the spiritual leaders of the Churches today, to remind us will be held accountable, not only for what we teach and share in God’s House, but for our own personal actions? Do we really understand the seriousness of the Word of God and why it is called the Sword of the Spirit.
God’s word is living and active. It is sharper than any two-edged sword and cuts as deep as the place where soul and spirit meet, the place where joints and marrow meet. God’s word judges a person’s thoughts and intentions. Hebrews 4:12 GWT
We are to use The Sword of the Spirit to bring life, not sin and death. It is our weapon of warfare, the only thing which is powerful enough to cut between the soul and the spirit, so when the enemy comes to destroy us through the weaknesses of our soul, The Holy Spirit uses it to reprove us and show us
the traps of the enemy and save our souls.
If we alter the Word of God to fit our needs or others, some of the sheep will follow, for without a responsible shepherd sheep will wander off the trail, making them easy prey for predators and wolves to come into them to rob, steal and destroy the souls of God’s People.
God’s Word is life and it brings life where there is death, however, if we alter it, replacing God’s Word of life and apply our words through our knowledge of good and evil, which is what already happened in the garden.. We don’t need to do that again!
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15
I cry out for the teachers and the Shepherds needed today! The protectors of the flock, the faithful and true, who will encircle the flock with the Truth of The Word of God and expose, that which is not of God and not be ashamed or afraid to die or loose their positions?
Have we into a new area where many do not have ears to hear and are blinded to the reality of what is happening spiritually to them and what they are passing down to others? If so, is this the enemy or God?
“God blinded them and made them close-minded so that their eyes don’t see and their minds don’t understand. And they never turn to me for healing!” John 12:40
It is wise for us to teachable, able to receive what the Holy Spirit is pouring upon all of us during this season, examining our hearts daily and seek the Lord, our high priest, for His forgiveness.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
I John 1:9 KJV
Did all of this stuff come from one little white lie, where the Word of God, was altered to make someone feel better or so someone could stay in a position of authority? Was one lie the trigger, which sparked the plan to bring deception into the family of God? Was the lie worth all of the horror which was released over ALL of Mankind?
It wasn’t worth it then and it is certainly not worth it today. This is a wake up call for all of us to get our spiritual house in order. It is not spring cleaning it is time to get ourselves ready as the 5 virgins were ready.
There are a couple of sayings going around, which might be beneficial to take heed, “If you think you cannot be deceived, you already are.” And what about: “Gee, didn’t see that coming?”
Pride blinds.
And Biblically, Paul said had already given us something similar in the Word.
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ 2 Cor 11:3
Adam was placed in the Garden as a spiritual leader, the priest over Eve and his family. Eve was given to him to love and because he needed her companionship and help. They were to be a team liken to a King and Queen to rule and reign, have children and subdue the earth.
Today we are living in what is called the Laodicea Church Age. Laodicea means “The People’s Rights. No doubt, God created us to have free will and to make decisions, but it is wise to take note of His Word, for it is written:
12 Someone may say, “I’m allowed to do anything,” but not everything is helpful. I’m allowed to do anything, but I won’t allow anything to gain control over my life. I Cor 6:12
Let us do better today and be wise through the use of our personal words and how we treat the Word of God, so when we come before the Lord at the Bema Seat of Judgment, He will say, “Well done good and faithful servant.”
“His master replied, ‘Good job! You’re a good and faithful servant! You proved that you could be trusted with a small amount. I will put you in charge of a large amount. Come and share your master’s happiness.’ Matthew 25:23 GWT
He is coming back soon – Are You Ready?
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
Hi Becca,
I believe the first and original sin was sexual. Eve and Adam were seduced by Satan, who took on his beautiful pre-fall form to entice them. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and is evil is not a fruit. I’ve searched high and low and find that there is no such fruit in existence. It is a concept or doctrine. If you study the immediate reactions by Adam and Eve on participating in the concept/doctrine, you will see that they immediately felt ashamed of their nakedness and that they covered themselves with leaves to hide this nakedness. God also sewed for them skins to cover their nakedness, thereby becoming the first-ever Tailor. Nakedness and shame somehow equal sex in my vocabulary. Further, God cursed childbirth. Again childbirth is a result of sex. Cain was to be born of this sexual union with the devil and Eve. Childbirth is painful even today. This curse has not been lifted. Further, God ordained circumcision as salvation for His people till the time of Jesus. Circumcision is the cutting away of the foreskin of the male sexual organ. Why that part? The mind-boggling and nature changing and death-bringing punishment that God meted out was way out of proportion to the severity of the sin of disobedience, whereas it was well within His rights to even have annihilated Adam and Eve, for blood corruption. Because blood corruption brought about our fallen nature and we are sinful. Which is a fact. There is no denying that. And God does say, that if we are perfectly righteous, our righteousness is like filthy rags because even we do not commit a single sin, our blood will still be dirty in his eyes, it being the blood of the devil that is coursing through our veins. That is why Jesus says that we should be born again, not of blood, or the will of the flesh, or the will of man, but of God, because being born again through the act of dying in the waters of baptism and rising again in newness of life will ensure for us that the old blood of the devil has been done away with and that we have the Blood of Jesus coursing through our veins. That is why Jesus had to die the gruesome death where His Blood was shed as a Blood for blood answer for our redemption. And the reason that the Jews so obscenely handed Him over to die, was because He told them that they were of their father the devil. Jesus Himself accused them of being the progeny of the devil.
The biggest deception that the devil has hoisted onto mankind is that the sin was just a simple act of disobedience when in reality it was the blood corruption of mankind through Cain and the co-mingling of the progeny of Adam and Eve after that. Because, indeed, genetics cannot be altered by the act of disobedience which is an external act. But man’s genetics were altered to become sinful in nature, so sinful in fact that God had to destroy the entire world to be rid of this bad blood. Noah and family entered the new world with a clean bloodline, but Satan entered in again and played havoc with Ham, who perhaps committed incest with his mother, and the entire world is corrupted again through the bloodline of Canaan. Further, the fallen angels took their lead from Satan and began to have sexual relations with human women, because of which giants were born in those days. Satan himself I believe was castrated at the time of the curse in the garden of Eden when he was cursed to go on his belly. That is why he is not sexually active today, but because he needs to spawn the anti-Christ, he is experimenting with kidnapped women on board various UFO vessels. He has once had experience in trying to create his own brand of humans when he tried his hand at creating the Neanderthal and hominid homo sapiens to show his one-upmanship over God. He miserably failed in these experiments, as he is not a life-giver, so he decided to subvert God’s creation and wrest mankind away from God as his ultimate fist in God’s face rebellion.
The facts of our life in this world add up to my theory. Adam too was ashamed of his nakedness. That means he too committed a sexual sin. It could be the sin of homosexuality with the devil, or the devil transformed himself to become a woman. The sex with the devil as a woman does not hold water, so I tend to think it is homosexuality and then he had sex with Eve and spawned Abel.
Cain and Abel were perhaps twins. I surmise this because Cain’s name is not mentioned in the lineage of Adam, he being the son of the devil. But it gives the impression that the two were born at the same time. I’m not 100% sure about this though.
My website is not yet ready. I have just started writing and the above gist is going to be my very first book. I would appreciate your feedback and input on this matter. If I have stated anything unbiblical, please do not hesitate to point it out. A few points are my own conjectures and surmise – like the neanderthal man and the UFO’s, but these do give an interesting explanation when nothing seems to be forthcoming from the scientists, isn’t it?
Thank you for your patience in reading my outline above.
Warm regards
Sheila Mathews
India
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